D&D 5E (2024) Character Sheet & Builder by Roll20

I'm sorry I'm not understanding what you mean? What second set are you talking about? Also if I select a 2014 race, background, and class. I should be able to do my points using the 2014 rules. As is if I select a 2014 players handbook race it forces me to use that race's +s/-s to skills. But if I select a Mordikain's race it just allows me to select three different +1s. We should be able to select what option we want to use, the PHB, select a +2 and a +1 or three +1s. On the 2014 sheet even if I selected a race from the PHB it would give me the option of how I want to do it.

Jim W. said:

Hel said:

You can't though. When I am making a character it forces me to select three different ones. If I select strength it won't let me select it again.

Saul J. said:

You can do the +2/+1 by just selecting the same characteristic twice. It works just fine.

The update changed it so you can no longer choose 2 the same in first set, but second set allows duplication of any in first set.  Functionally correct, if a bit at variance to how the PHB describes it.

Resilient Feat still does not add save bonus. Crossbow Bolts +1 give a boost to AC…

I think it's just an easy way to provide the logic. One list group allows repeats, the other doesn't. The permissions were switched during testing at one point, but I guess they settled on this. It works, and provides the ability to chose +2/+1, or  +1/+1/+1, so I'm seeing this as good.

The sheet is adding +1 bonus to STR and DEX when I equipped armor, that is not in the rules.

Hi RPGeezer!

There are two ways. You can use the character Notes on the journal, just like any other sheet:

Or, if you want the notes to show on the actual sheet, the Notes panel has the ability to create free-form categories and subcategories:

Hel said:

I'm sorry I'm not understanding what you mean? What second set are you talking about? Also if I select a 2014 race, background, and class. I should be able to do my points using the 2014 rules. As is if I select a 2014 players handbook race it forces me to use that race's +s/-s to skills. But if I select a Mordikain's race it just allows me to select three different +1s. We should be able to select what option we want to use, the PHB, select a +2 and a +1 or three +1s. On the 2014 sheet even if I selected a race from the PHB it would give me the option of how I want to do it.

Jim W. said:

I'm not sure why you would use the 2024 sheet for 2014 rules. 

Because what if the background you want isn't part of the 2024 rules yet? And also the new sheet looks better over all, being able to use it for 2014 and 2024 would be nice. It only asks for the +2 +1 if you use a 2024 background.

Jim W. said:

Hel said:

I'm sorry I'm not understanding what you mean? What second set are you talking about? Also if I select a 2014 race, background, and class. I should be able to do my points using the 2014 rules. As is if I select a 2014 players handbook race it forces me to use that race's +s/-s to skills. But if I select a Mordikain's race it just allows me to select three different +1s. We should be able to select what option we want to use, the PHB, select a +2 and a +1 or three +1s. On the 2014 sheet even if I selected a race from the PHB it would give me the option of how I want to do it.

Jim W. said:

The 2024 character sheet asks you to select 2 +1's and then a single +1..  To choose to have a +2 (e.g. for Charisma) you select it for one of the first two, and then again for the single.

I'm not sure why you would use the 2024 sheet for 2014 rules. 

Jim W. said:

I'm not sure why you would use the 2024 sheet for 2014 rules. 

The stated intent by WotC is that the 2024 rules are backwards compatible. Ie: mix and match 2024 and 2014 content.

If you cannot do that via Roll20's 2024 character sheet then the 2024 character sheet has a problem. 

Thanks Keith. I figured it out right after posting so tried to delete. Guess it didn’t take, but maybe this will be helpful to someone else.

keithcurtis said:

Hi RPGeezer!

There are two ways. You can use the character Notes on the journal, just like any other sheet:

Or, if you want the notes to show on the actual sheet, the Notes panel has the ability to create free-form categories and subcategories:

The character builder dose not allow +2/+1 for the character I was creating, I can not select the same score twice. You are correct that the species ability score increase is supposed to be ignored, but the option for +2/+1 should still be available if selecting a pre-'24 background per the 2024 PHB. Additionally, as Giant Foundling comes with a Feat, even if it is not one of the new Origin feats, I should still be able to select it. The book dose not say that I can not, it only says what happens if the pre-'24 BG dose not come with a feat.

In the new 5e 2024 PHB, on pg. 38 in the Background and Species from Older Books parchment section at the bottom corner, it states:

Backgrounds in older D&D books don't include ability score adjustments. If you're using a background from an older book, adjust your ability scores by increasing one score by 2 and a different one by 1, or increase three scores by 1. None of these increases can raise a score above 20.
Similarly, species in older books include ability score increases. If you're using a species from an older book, ignore those increases and use only the ones given by your background.
Also, if the background you choose doesn't provide a feat, you gain an Origin feat of your choice.

The Roll20 compatibility implementation is incorrect. I consider this a Bug. Especially to maintain comparability with pre-'24 content and making the new 2024 character sheet the de facto sheet for all D&D 5e content in the future as is the goal stated by Roll20, whether you are using the 2014 or 2024 rule-set.

[EDIT] Just reread my post, sorry if it seems a bit rude it's not my intention. I'm trying to stick to the straight facts as best I can. But whenever I come across one of these problems that, to my knowledge, are unreported, I feel the need to post it and report like a raging barbarian paladin feels the need to smite when getting a crit 20.

Saul J. said:

You can do the +2/+1 by just selecting the same characteristic twice. It works just fine.

FWIW, the 2024 PHB says that if you choose a species from an older source, other than the new PHB, you do NOT get the species bonuses for ability scores. You get them from the background no matter what, even if the background you choose from a pre-2024 source doesn't include them. See page 38 for details.

I think this is what Roll20 is implementing for the 2024 sheet.

Pedro S. said:

Same with the characteristic point allocations. Players should not be forced into +1 to 3 skills because they chose a pre-'24 background. They need to have access to the option for +2/+1 option that is part of the pre-'24 race options when selecting a pre-'24 race. It's the DM's place to say Yae or Nae to it.

Pedro S. said:

The character builder dose not allow +2/+1 for the character I was creating, I can not select the same score twice. You are correct that the species ability score increase is supposed to be ignored, but the option for +2/+1 should still be available if selecting a pre-'24 background per the 2024 PHB. Additionally, as Giant Foundling comes with a Feat, even if it is not one of the new Origin feats, I should still be able to select it. The book dose not say that I can not, it only says what happens if the pre-'24 BG dose not come with a feat.

In the new 5e 2024 PHB, on pg. 38 in the Background and Species from Older Books parchment section at the bottom corner, it states:

Backgrounds in older D&D books don't include ability score adjustments. If you're using a background from an older book, adjust your ability scores by increasing one score by 2 and a different one by 1, or increase three scores by 1. None of these increases can raise a score above 20.
Similarly, species in older books include ability score increases. If you're using a species from an older book, ignore those increases and use only the ones given by your background.
Also, if the background you choose doesn't provide a feat, you gain an Origin feat of your choice.

The Roll20 compatibility implementation is incorrect. I consider this a Bug. Especially to maintain comparability with pre-'24 content and making the new 2024 character sheet the de facto sheet for all D&D 5e content in the future as is the goal stated by Roll20, whether you are using the 2014 or 2024 rule-set.

[EDIT] Just reread my post, sorry if it seems a bit rude it's not my intention. I'm trying to stick to the straight facts as best I can. But whenever I come across one of these problems that, to my knowledge, are unreported, I feel the need to post it and report like a raging barbarian paladin feels the need to smite when getting a crit 20.

Saul J. said:

You can do the +2/+1 by just selecting the same characteristic twice. It works just fine.

FWIW, the 2024 PHB says that if you choose a species from an older source, other than the new PHB, you do NOT get the species bonuses for ability scores. You get them from the background no matter what, even if the background you choose from a pre-2024 source doesn't include them. See page 38 for details.

I think this is what Roll20 is implementing for the 2024 sheet.

Pedro S. said:

Same with the characteristic point allocations. Players should not be forced into +1 to 3 skills because they chose a pre-'24 background. They need to have access to the option for +2/+1 option that is part of the pre-'24 race options when selecting a pre-'24 race. It's the DM's place to say Yae or Nae to it.

I reported this as but back at launch. And it's been largely ignored when I post about it. Or we get people like Jim who are condescending.

OMG! I literally spent 6 months building this campaign, and now all my NPCs and Monsters sheets are inaccessible. We are starting the campaign in 2 weeks, using the 2024 rules. When I try to open any Monster's sheet, it forces me to start a new NPC from scratch or make a new character from scratch. This is one of the worst things that has ever happened to me (within my D&D hobby, yes it is still a first world problem).

Roll20 - I have been so happy until now, please fix this!!!

Selecting the Dhampir species has a slight bug. It asks you to make an "Ancestral Legacy Option" choice, but then only provides one choice - "Skill Proficiencies". This is the correct and only choice possible when creating a dhampir character, according to the source book. The builder should just do what it does in other cases, and just give you two skills to choose when you choose skill proficiencies later on. I.e. the requirement to make this choice should be eliminated.

But, yes, it does look like when you get to assigning ability scores, if you chose a species from an older book, you only get the option to add +1 to three ability scores - you do not get the option to do +2/+1, regardless of what background/feat you choose:

I don't have Glory of the Giants book so I can't choose that as a background to test out what happens with that, but the rules say that if you choose a background from an older book that does not give you a feat, you get an Origin feat of your choice. Regardless of which Origin you choose, you get the "2024 Compatibility" mode where you choose your +2/+1:

I did post in another message that the builder doesn't quite handle the Strixhaven backgrounds correctly in that it doesn't give you the feat associated with your school but instead asks you to choose a feat. But IIRC, it did allow me to do +2/+1 as shown above after I chose a feat. 

The builder is a work in progress. :-)

I think more info is needed on this. I just added Studded Leather armor to a character (which it looks like what you had) and nothing was added to STR or DEX when it was equipped.

BUT, I did find a different bug: I could not drop any of the magic armors (like Studded Leather +1) onto the sheet.

Lisbeth S. said:

The sheet is adding +1 bonus to STR and DEX when I equipped armor, that is not in the rules.

I've created a barbarian, Path of the Totem Warrior, but Im not getting the Totem Spirit option in the builder:

Any ideas folks? Thanks 

Paul said:

OMG! I literally spent 6 months building this campaign, and now all my NPCs and Monsters sheets are inaccessible. We are starting the campaign in 2 weeks, using the 2024 rules. When I try to open any Monster's sheet, it forces me to start a new NPC from scratch or make a new character from scratch. This is one of the worst things that has ever happened to me (within my D&D hobby, yes it is still a first world problem).

Roll20 - I have been so happy until now, please fix this!!!

Regardless of how you made the switch (copying an old campaign into Jumpgate and choosing the 2024 sheet or converting the old campaign into Jumpgate and choosing the 2024 sheet), you should have a different game that represents your old, unconverted game. Start with that.

Now from outside the game on your game's info page, choose to make a copy. Tell the copy to be in Jumpgate, but to use the old 2014 sheet as the primary sheet. That will preserve your existing content. Once you are in the game, add the 2024 sheet to it as the secondary sheet via the settings tab. This will allow you to add new 2024 content at will.

If for some reason you deleted your old game or it is inaccessible, contact Roll20 via a Help Center Request. Explain your situation and ask to have it restored.

Alternatively (though this is last resort IMHO, since I haven't tested it), remove any second sheet you might have added, go to the campaign settings page and switch from 2024 to 2014 sheet, then go back into your game and add 2024 as the secondary.

Saul J. said:

The builder is a work in progress. :-)

True words.

Many newer users look at the old sheet and charactermancer and assume they were built in a day. Charactermancer didn't arrive with level up either. That did not come for months. And it was continually refined for years. The original Compendium did not have nearly the drag and drop robustness it now has. Equipment or spells came first, IIRC.

Sheets and character builders are always a work in progress.

Saul J. said:

BUT, I did find a different bug: I could not drop any of the magic armors (like Studded Leather +1) onto the sheet.

My guess is that not all the data from the old DMG has been updated. I noticed that too.

And where can you select these feats? I don't have that option when using an older race/background

Saul J. said:

Selecting the Dhampir species has a slight bug. It asks you to make an "Ancestral Legacy Option" choice, but then only provides one choice - "Skill Proficiencies". This is the correct and only choice possible when creating a dhampir character, according to the source book. The builder should just do what it does in other cases, and just give you two skills to choose when you choose skill proficiencies later on. I.e. the requirement to make this choice should be eliminated.

But, yes, it does look like when you get to assigning ability scores, if you chose a species from an older book, you only get the option to add +1 to three ability scores - you do not get the option to do +2/+1, regardless of what background/feat you choose:

I don't have Glory of the Giants book so I can't choose that as a background to test out what happens with that, but the rules say that if you choose a background from an older book that does not give you a feat, you get an Origin feat of your choice. Regardless of which Origin you choose, you get the "2024 Compatibility" mode where you choose your +2/+1:

I did post in another message that the builder doesn't quite handle the Strixhaven backgrounds correctly in that it doesn't give you the feat associated with your school but instead asks you to choose a feat. But IIRC, it did allow me to do +2/+1 as shown above after I chose a feat. 

The builder is a work in progress. :-)

Figured it out, you have to pick a 2024 class and a 2014 background for this work. So, again we go back to, if this is the sheet you want everyone to use, and as WOTC have said it's supposed to be backwards compatible. If I pick a 2014 class, I should still have the option to actually select between racial bonuses, +2/+1, or three +1s. This is how the 14 sheet was.

Hel said:

And where can you select these feats? I don't have that option when using an older race/background

Saul J. said:

Selecting the Dhampir species has a slight bug. It asks you to make an "Ancestral Legacy Option" choice, but then only provides one choice - "Skill Proficiencies". This is the correct and only choice possible when creating a dhampir character, according to the source book. The builder should just do what it does in other cases, and just give you two skills to choose when you choose skill proficiencies later on. I.e. the requirement to make this choice should be eliminated.

But, yes, it does look like when you get to assigning ability scores, if you chose a species from an older book, you only get the option to add +1 to three ability scores - you do not get the option to do +2/+1, regardless of what background/feat you choose:

I don't have Glory of the Giants book so I can't choose that as a background to test out what happens with that, but the rules say that if you choose a background from an older book that does not give you a feat, you get an Origin feat of your choice. Regardless of which Origin you choose, you get the "2024 Compatibility" mode where you choose your +2/+1:

I did post in another message that the builder doesn't quite handle the Strixhaven backgrounds correctly in that it doesn't give you the feat associated with your school but instead asks you to choose a feat. But IIRC, it did allow me to do +2/+1 as shown above after I chose a feat. 

The builder is a work in progress. :-)

I believe if you want a 2014 class and a 2014 background, you should be using the 2014 sheet.

In jumpgate games, you can have both the 2014 sheet and the 2024 sheet in the same game. To make it work, I think you have to choose the 2014 sheet when you build the game (as the default sheet) and then add the 2024 sheet in the game in the in-game options.

The 2024 rules are supposed to be backwards compatible. Roll20's implementation of the 2024 sheet and builder is not. It may take months before it's fully backwards compatible. 

Hel said:

Figured it out, you have to pick a 2024 class and a 2014 background for this work. So, again we go back to, if this is the sheet you want everyone to use, and as WOTC have said it's supposed to be backwards compatible. If I pick a 2014 class, I should still have the option to actually select between racial bonuses, +2/+1, or three +1s. This is how the 14 sheet was.

Hel said:

And where can you select these feats? I don't have that option when using an older race/background

Saul J. said:

Selecting the Dhampir species has a slight bug. It asks you to make an "Ancestral Legacy Option" choice, but then only provides one choice - "Skill Proficiencies". This is the correct and only choice possible when creating a dhampir character, according to the source book. The builder should just do what it does in other cases, and just give you two skills to choose when you choose skill proficiencies later on. I.e. the requirement to make this choice should be eliminated.

But, yes, it does look like when you get to assigning ability scores, if you chose a species from an older book, you only get the option to add +1 to three ability scores - you do not get the option to do +2/+1, regardless of what background/feat you choose:

I don't have Glory of the Giants book so I can't choose that as a background to test out what happens with that, but the rules say that if you choose a background from an older book that does not give you a feat, you get an Origin feat of your choice. Regardless of which Origin you choose, you get the "2024 Compatibility" mode where you choose your +2/+1:

I did post in another message that the builder doesn't quite handle the Strixhaven backgrounds correctly in that it doesn't give you the feat associated with your school but instead asks you to choose a feat. But IIRC, it did allow me to do +2/+1 as shown above after I chose a feat. 

The builder is a work in progress. :-)

This is really the only thing preventing it from being usable. And if you are only supposed to use the new sheet for 2024 content, then they shouldn't offer the options to use 2014 content

Saul J. said:

I believe if you want a 2014 class and a 2014 background, you should be using the 2014 sheet.

In jumpgate games, you can have both the 2014 sheet and the 2024 sheet in the same game. To make it work, I think you have to choose the 2014 sheet when you build the game (as the default sheet) and then add the 2024 sheet in the game in the in-game options.

The 2024 rules are supposed to be backwards compatible. Roll20's implementation of the 2024 sheet and builder is not. It may take months before it's fully backwards compatible. 

Hel said:

Figured it out, you have to pick a 2024 class and a 2014 background for this work. So, again we go back to, if this is the sheet you want everyone to use, and as WOTC have said it's supposed to be backwards compatible. If I pick a 2014 class, I should still have the option to actually select between racial bonuses, +2/+1, or three +1s. This is how the 14 sheet was.

Hel said:

And where can you select these feats? I don't have that option when using an older race/background

Saul J. said:

Selecting the Dhampir species has a slight bug. It asks you to make an "Ancestral Legacy Option" choice, but then only provides one choice - "Skill Proficiencies". This is the correct and only choice possible when creating a dhampir character, according to the source book. The builder should just do what it does in other cases, and just give you two skills to choose when you choose skill proficiencies later on. I.e. the requirement to make this choice should be eliminated.

But, yes, it does look like when you get to assigning ability scores, if you chose a species from an older book, you only get the option to add +1 to three ability scores - you do not get the option to do +2/+1, regardless of what background/feat you choose:

I don't have Glory of the Giants book so I can't choose that as a background to test out what happens with that, but the rules say that if you choose a background from an older book that does not give you a feat, you get an Origin feat of your choice. Regardless of which Origin you choose, you get the "2024 Compatibility" mode where you choose your +2/+1:

I did post in another message that the builder doesn't quite handle the Strixhaven backgrounds correctly in that it doesn't give you the feat associated with your school but instead asks you to choose a feat. But IIRC, it did allow me to do +2/+1 as shown above after I chose a feat. 

The builder is a work in progress. :-)

Some people want to be able to mix-and-match so the 2014 options need to be there. For example, I might want to make a tabaxi (2014) Rogue (2024).

Hel said:

This is really the only thing preventing it from being usable. And if you are only supposed to use the new sheet for 2024 content, then they shouldn't offer the options to use 2014 content

Saul J. said:

I believe if you want a 2014 class and a 2014 background, you should be using the 2014 sheet.

In jumpgate games, you can have both the 2014 sheet and the 2024 sheet in the same game. To make it work, I think you have to choose the 2014 sheet when you build the game (as the default sheet) and then add the 2024 sheet in the game in the in-game options.

The 2024 rules are supposed to be backwards compatible. Roll20's implementation of the 2024 sheet and builder is not. It may take months before it's fully backwards compatible. 

Hel said:

Figured it out, you have to pick a 2024 class and a 2014 background for this work. So, again we go back to, if this is the sheet you want everyone to use, and as WOTC have said it's supposed to be backwards compatible. If I pick a 2014 class, I should still have the option to actually select between racial bonuses, +2/+1, or three +1s. This is how the 14 sheet was.

Hel said:

And where can you select these feats? I don't have that option when using an older race/background

Saul J. said:

Selecting the Dhampir species has a slight bug. It asks you to make an "Ancestral Legacy Option" choice, but then only provides one choice - "Skill Proficiencies". This is the correct and only choice possible when creating a dhampir character, according to the source book. The builder should just do what it does in other cases, and just give you two skills to choose when you choose skill proficiencies later on. I.e. the requirement to make this choice should be eliminated.

But, yes, it does look like when you get to assigning ability scores, if you chose a species from an older book, you only get the option to add +1 to three ability scores - you do not get the option to do +2/+1, regardless of what background/feat you choose:

I don't have Glory of the Giants book so I can't choose that as a background to test out what happens with that, but the rules say that if you choose a background from an older book that does not give you a feat, you get an Origin feat of your choice. Regardless of which Origin you choose, you get the "2024 Compatibility" mode where you choose your +2/+1:

I did post in another message that the builder doesn't quite handle the Strixhaven backgrounds correctly in that it doesn't give you the feat associated with your school but instead asks you to choose a feat. But IIRC, it did allow me to do +2/+1 as shown above after I chose a feat. 

The builder is a work in progress. :-)

But what about someone wanting to make something with a 2014 background and race but with a 2024 class? Again the easy fix is just to let it be a toggle, or when one is selected don't.ake it so you can't select it again. Which is how it was during beta. That way everyone can enjoy the new sheet. I have no real intention of getting the 2024 rule books, but I think the new sheet looks really nice and clean. 

Saul J. said:

Some people want to be able to mix-and-match so the 2014 options need to be there. For example, I might want to make a tabaxi (2014) Rogue (2024).

Hel said:

This is really the only thing preventing it from being usable. And if you are only supposed to use the new sheet for 2024 content, then they shouldn't offer the options to use 2014 content

Saul J. said:

I believe if you want a 2014 class and a 2014 background, you should be using the 2014 sheet.

In jumpgate games, you can have both the 2014 sheet and the 2024 sheet in the same game. To make it work, I think you have to choose the 2014 sheet when you build the game (as the default sheet) and then add the 2024 sheet in the game in the in-game options.

The 2024 rules are supposed to be backwards compatible. Roll20's implementation of the 2024 sheet and builder is not. It may take months before it's fully backwards compatible. 

Hel said:

Figured it out, you have to pick a 2024 class and a 2014 background for this work. So, again we go back to, if this is the sheet you want everyone to use, and as WOTC have said it's supposed to be backwards compatible. If I pick a 2014 class, I should still have the option to actually select between racial bonuses, +2/+1, or three +1s. This is how the 14 sheet was.

Hel said:

And where can you select these feats? I don't have that option when using an older race/background

Saul J. said:

Selecting the Dhampir species has a slight bug. It asks you to make an "Ancestral Legacy Option" choice, but then only provides one choice - "Skill Proficiencies". This is the correct and only choice possible when creating a dhampir character, according to the source book. The builder should just do what it does in other cases, and just give you two skills to choose when you choose skill proficiencies later on. I.e. the requirement to make this choice should be eliminated.

But, yes, it does look like when you get to assigning ability scores, if you chose a species from an older book, you only get the option to add +1 to three ability scores - you do not get the option to do +2/+1, regardless of what background/feat you choose:

I don't have Glory of the Giants book so I can't choose that as a background to test out what happens with that, but the rules say that if you choose a background from an older book that does not give you a feat, you get an Origin feat of your choice. Regardless of which Origin you choose, you get the "2024 Compatibility" mode where you choose your +2/+1:

I did post in another message that the builder doesn't quite handle the Strixhaven backgrounds correctly in that it doesn't give you the feat associated with your school but instead asks you to choose a feat. But IIRC, it did allow me to do +2/+1 as shown above after I chose a feat. 

The builder is a work in progress. :-)

You can do that, but that's where the bug currently is, where it only gives you the option of 3 +1's to Ability Scores instead of the +2/+1. I suspect that will get fixed in the near future.

Hel said:

But what about someone wanting to make something with a 2014 background and race but with a 2024 class? Again the easy fix is just to let it be a toggle, or when one is selected don't.ake it so you can't select it again. Which is how it was during beta. That way everyone can enjoy the new sheet. I have no real intention of getting the 2024 rule books, but I think the new sheet looks really nice and clean. 

Saul J. said:

Some people want to be able to mix-and-match so the 2014 options need to be there. For example, I might want to make a tabaxi (2014) Rogue (2024).

Hel said:

This is really the only thing preventing it from being usable. And if you are only supposed to use the new sheet for 2024 content, then they shouldn't offer the options to use 2014 content

Saul J. said:

I believe if you want a 2014 class and a 2014 background, you should be using the 2014 sheet.

In jumpgate games, you can have both the 2014 sheet and the 2024 sheet in the same game. To make it work, I think you have to choose the 2014 sheet when you build the game (as the default sheet) and then add the 2024 sheet in the game in the in-game options.

The 2024 rules are supposed to be backwards compatible. Roll20's implementation of the 2024 sheet and builder is not. It may take months before it's fully backwards compatible. 

Hel said:

Figured it out, you have to pick a 2024 class and a 2014 background for this work. So, again we go back to, if this is the sheet you want everyone to use, and as WOTC have said it's supposed to be backwards compatible. If I pick a 2014 class, I should still have the option to actually select between racial bonuses, +2/+1, or three +1s. This is how the 14 sheet was.

Hel said:

And where can you select these feats? I don't have that option when using an older race/background

Saul J. said:

Selecting the Dhampir species has a slight bug. It asks you to make an "Ancestral Legacy Option" choice, but then only provides one choice - "Skill Proficiencies". This is the correct and only choice possible when creating a dhampir character, according to the source book. The builder should just do what it does in other cases, and just give you two skills to choose when you choose skill proficiencies later on. I.e. the requirement to make this choice should be eliminated.

But, yes, it does look like when you get to assigning ability scores, if you chose a species from an older book, you only get the option to add +1 to three ability scores - you do not get the option to do +2/+1, regardless of what background/feat you choose:

I don't have Glory of the Giants book so I can't choose that as a background to test out what happens with that, but the rules say that if you choose a background from an older book that does not give you a feat, you get an Origin feat of your choice. Regardless of which Origin you choose, you get the "2024 Compatibility" mode where you choose your +2/+1:

I did post in another message that the builder doesn't quite handle the Strixhaven backgrounds correctly in that it doesn't give you the feat associated with your school but instead asks you to choose a feat. But IIRC, it did allow me to do +2/+1 as shown above after I chose a feat. 

The builder is a work in progress. :-)

Confirmed broken.

Ben L. said:

When my players click on the "save" area for a given ability score (like to make a Wis save), nothing happens. 

BUG: Pact of the Tome now asks you to select your 3 cantrips and 2 1st level spells that appear in the Tome. The only problem is, it limits you to the Warlock list of spells. Pact of the Tome allows the spells to be chosen from ANY spell list, and they don't all have to be from the same class list.

Will the quick macro bar become available in the future for the 2024 sheets?

Alan M. said:

Will the quick macro bar become available in the future for the 2024 sheets?

It already is available, but it is pretty broken, and the sheet in general is very hostile to macros, so it won't do you much good.

Another thing that needs to be fixed: The Alert feat gives allows the Proficiency Bonus to be added to the Initiative. However, the sheet does not do this automatically. You have to do it manually. That means every time your proficiency changes, you have to remember to change the manually added bonus to Initiative.

Another issue: when taking the Skilled feat as the second feat for a human character, the builder asks for the choice of the three skills or tools you are choosing. However, all the skills and tools are listed twice in the dropdown menu! I'm assuming that the 2014 and the 2024 choices are listed, but there is no indication in the dropdown list as to which is the 2014 version and which the 2024 version:

Since Astrophysics isn't in either PHB, I'd say listing the source is pretty important.

it does work, you have to choose 2 different stats in the first offer of stat choices. In the second drop down offer after the initial 2 choices you can choose the same as desired for a +2 total to one stat. just tried it, in game and works.

Saul J. said:

You can do that, but that's where the bug currently is, where it only gives you the option of 3 +1's to Ability Scores instead of the +2/+1. I suspect that will get fixed in the near future.

No. That's only under certain circumstances. In some circumstances, such as if you choose a 2014 background and race, the "compatibility" mode forces you into 3 +1s and you cannot choose one of them twice.

Andor said:

it does work, you have to choose 2 different stats in the first offer of stat choices. In the second drop down offer after the initial 2 choices you can choose the same as desired for a +2 total to one stat. just tried it, in game and works.

Saul J. said:

You can do that, but that's where the bug currently is, where it only gives you the option of 3 +1's to Ability Scores instead of the +2/+1. I suspect that will get fixed in the near future.

The astrophysics is from one of the 3rd party sources I own. But, yes, the sources should be listed!

keithcurtis said:

Since Astrophysics isn't in either PHB, I'd say listing the source is pretty important.

When manually entering a new item can we get an Initiative option in the Advantage/Disadvantage 'Type' so things like the Sentinel Shield can apply automatically to the Initiative roll?

I'm very confused. Last we were notified that auto leveling and starting equipment were added to the character builder. It was a bit of a bummer that we were told any characters we had already built would have to be rebuilt based on these updates. But I was willing to put the work in to rebuild the 4 PCs in my upcoming campaign. Since the sheet is still quite buggy, that took a long time. Now today I just got an email with the following quote: "Automated Level Up and Starting Equipment for the D&D 2024 character builder is out today!  Dive into a smoother, faster experience as you power up with ease and equip your character with just a few clicks. For any D&D 2024 characters created before today’s update, you’ll need to start the character creation process over in order to use the Automated Level Up feature."

So is this a mistakenly repeated email or do will I need to rebuild all that characters again?

I think that's just repeated information to make sure everyone gets it.

The emails are sent out like once a week, so it's more of a collection of all the updates since the last one

Carnie DM said:

I'm very confused. Last we were notified that auto leveling and starting equipment were added to the character builder. It was a bit of a bummer that we were told any characters we had already built would have to be rebuilt based on these updates. But I was willing to put the work in to rebuild the 4 PCs in my upcoming campaign. Since the sheet is still quite buggy, that took a long time. Now today I just got an email with the following quote: "Automated Level Up and Starting Equipment for the D&D 2024 character builder is out today!  Dive into a smoother, faster experience as you power up with ease and equip your character with just a few clicks. For any D&D 2024 characters created before today’s update, you’ll need to start the character creation process over in order to use the Automated Level Up feature."

So is this a mistakenly repeated email or do will I need to rebuild all that characters again?

I believe you can just level up. I did an experiment and the level up went easily