Bronson H. said: Saul J. said: According to the PHB, no species, including those from older books, get ability score increases, when using the 2024 rules. You now get them from the background in all cases. Therefore, the background should be giving them. And, if you're using a background from an older book, you should get them as part of the "compatibility" increase. So, when I selected the 2024 sorcerer, the tabaxi, and the Faction Agent, I should have gotten the ability score increases as "+2/+1" or "+1/+1/+1" to any of the ability scores. I did not get them from the species either, btw. The latest version of the tabaxi, in Mordenkainen Presents Monsters of the Multiverse do not grant any ability score increases specific to the tabaxi. You can't have it both ways - you can't say that the species should have given them and not give them from the species, and not give them from the background either which is what essentially happened. I should have gotten ability score increases and I didn't. All characters get the ability score increases. You just get them through the background now under the 2024 rules whether by selecting a background from the 2024 rules or selecting an older background and getting them from the "compatibility rule" as stated specifically on page 38 of the PHB. Hey Saul Taking a closer look into this. Any chance you recall which version of the Tabaxi you were using? In that character configuration, if the species is not granting any ability score boosts, and (in the case of MMoM Tabaxi, as you mentioned) also not granting a "Tasha's" ability score choice, +2/+1 or +1/+1/+1, that is 100% a bug. You're right on the intended handling there. The way the builder works here is to first determine whether you're using those new 2024 Ability Score rules, based off your selections. If you pick a 2024 Species (or any species without ability score boosts), and an older book background, it should grant you the compatibility choice as per the 2024 PHB. Similarly, if you pick a 2024 background (or any background with an ability score boost), it should use that, and stifle any boosts from your older book species. But if you pick both an older book background (no ability scores), and an older book species that does have ability scores, it assumes you're using the 2014 rules for that aspect of character creation, and should just keep whatever your species gives you. Currently, the 2024 rules toggle on the sheet's settings doesn't impact character creation rules in the builder, in part because a new character won't have seen that toggle yet. But implementing a similar way to enforce this rule in the builder is something we've discussed for a later date! I will say, we recently (~ 2 months back) fixed a bug in this handling that was causing the builder to use the wrong compatibility combos here. If you try unselecting your species and background, then reselecting both, it might fix the ability score logic and restore the Tabaxi ability scores as intended. Let me know if that works! Sorcerer (2024)->Tabaxi->Faction Agent. There's only the one Tabaxi race listed in the builder. There's only one Faction Agent listed in the builder. I did NOT get any ability score increases either from the background, or the species. Deleting either the species, the background or both and reselecting them, did NOT fix the issue. The rules as stated in the 2024 PHB are very, very, very, very, clear. If you are using the 2024 classes, you are using the 2024 rules. If you're using the 2024 rules, you do NOT get ability score increases from the species regardless of whether you are choosing species from the 2024 PHB or species from an older book, including Tasha's. You do get them from the background you select. If the background does not come with them, because you're using a custom background, or a background from an earlier book, you get a choice of +2/+1 or +1/+1/+1 to any of the ability scores. The ONLY time that you should get ability score increases from your species, rather than the background is if you choose a class from the 2014 PHB, indicating the you are using the 2014 rules. I don't know how many times I have to say this, or how better to explain it. The builder is BROKEN.